• @Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    -38 months ago

    It’s hard to go against them in the West.

    The right hate Muslims so side with Israel.

    The left hate to be called antisemites, so hand-wring over civilian deaths, but ultimately side with Israel.

        • @Ferrous@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          38 months ago

          Keir Starmer?

          Everything I read about this dude characterizes him as abandoning left wing policy in favor of center, center-right policy.

          4th paragraph of his wikipedia page

          His leadership has been characterised by movement towards the political centre and abandonment of the left-wing platform of his leadership campaign, as well as by opposition to some of the government response to the COVID-19 pandemic and issues such as Partygate

          I just think it’s strange for you to insinuate that the position of the left is that of Israel’s.

          • @HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl
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            58 months ago

            True, but effectively on the political stage, he is the opposition. Understandable that non-politically online people/normal people call him left.

          • @hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest
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            38 months ago

            Agreed but you’re splitting hairs. My grandparents who voted for Biden aren’t really “the left” either.

            My ex who i’ve convinced to switch sides on this issue but is too afraid to say anything publicly because she doesn’t think she knows enough of the history to take a stance isn’t really “the left”, but she voted Biden too.

            Pretty much all of the Democratic leadership except Ilhan Omar.

            They’re not leftists but they are “the left”

      • @rivermonster@sh.itjust.works
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        -18 months ago

        Probably conflating support Israel’s right to exist, as supporting their current and past war crimes. Which is not the same thing. But for an anti-Israeli argument is a convenient false construct.