• @Doorbook@lemmy.world
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    137 months ago

    Its not the IDF alone. It is all the nations that didn’t say anything and keeping quite while this is continue to happen.

    • Bezerker03A
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      -127 months ago

      After Oct 7th what can you do? The footage from that day that we’ve seen is beyond some of the sickest shit we’ve seen in years. And it’s just the tip of the ice berg compared to what is being aired to governments.

      Israel literally has rockets shot at it daily and then these so called “freedom fighters” came and killed elderly and tried to chop their heads off with a garden hoe while he’s still alive.

      Let alone the fact that many of the hostages were cheered on and taken by citizens (not Hamas) and the citizens returned escapees back to Hamas… It’s really hard not to believe that Israel absolutely needs to remove and destroy Hamas. It’s also not unreasonable to expect them to attack Hamas infrastructure before sending in ground troops, especially when the citizens are on their side.

      The alternative is … Ask for another ceasefire and watch the rockets keep coming?

      • @febra@lemmy.world
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        137 months ago

        I’d expect elected officials to think with their brains and not act out of emotion. Besides that, if you want to have the same feelings about innocents being subjected to abject horror just take a look at all the videos of people dying right now in Gaza. If that’s what you need to find humanity, might as well look it up.

        • @mwguy@infosec.pub
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          -87 months ago

          They are thinking with their brains. Hamas has been very clear that they will, if given the chance repeat their attacks as often and severely as they can. An independent, self governing Gaza is no longer tolerable. Instead it will be partitioned up and occupied like the West Bank.

          • NoneOfUrBusiness
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            97 months ago

            It is occupied. The UN considers Gaza already under Israeli occupation because of the blockade.

            • @mwguy@infosec.pub
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              -27 months ago

              And there’s a definition of occupied that makes that true. However the colloquial definition of occupied generally involves actual militaries actually occupying actual territory.

              Few would consider the North during the American Civil War to be occupying the south because of it’s blockade. The same with Britian vs. Napoleonic Europe or Britain with WW1 era Germany (again during the war).

              Tbh the fact that the UN already sees it as occupied makes it easier to justify an actual occupation.

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                The thing is: The difference between these and Gaza is that Gaza is a tiny strip of land. Controlling their exports and imports allows you to turn their economy on and off. Israel has more say in whether Gazans have food to eat than Hamas. That’s an occupation.

      • @Doorbook@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        Okay i guess we just let IDF continue bombs these houses and fuck the children, you know what the IDF should steal their bikes as well.

      • NoneOfUrBusiness
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        97 months ago

        So the thing is, the blockade of Gaza (let alone the occupation that has been going on since 1967) is an act of war. When you commit an act of war, you get attacked. If Israel wanted Hamas to not attack them, they’d stop their occupation of Gaza (and the rest of Palestine).

        Also about the ceasefire part, If Israel had kept its ceasefires we wouldn’t have this mess.

        • @DoomBot5@lemmy.world
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          -57 months ago

          The blockade was started because Hamas repeatedly attacked Israel after they pulled out of Gaza to let them self govern. It would do you good to get your history straight.

          • NoneOfUrBusiness
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            77 months ago

            The blockade started when Israel pulled out, before anybody had the chance to do anything. It was then tightened in 2007. You should get your history straight.